Annoying trait with K5 - can this be changed in settings somewhere ?

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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 21:55
OK can't think how to explain this briefly, or clearly, so here goes.

I oft take 2-4 shots of same scene - kind of bracketing, but generally just one direction. With my Canon cameras this is a piece of cake - take a shot and I can instantly turn the wheel to reduce shutter speed, and again and again - there is literrally zero delay - so it is nice n quick with my 50D's.

However trying the same thing with my K5 (or 200D for that matter) this doesn't work - there is a delay (that seems for ever) of ..well I'd guesstimate 1-3 seconds (prob 1 or 2 and just feels longer) between pics being taken and turning the dial having any impact. There is a kind of (pain in the ass) workaround whereby tapping the shutter release does sometimes allow me to then turn the wheel and move shutter speed - though oddly it doesn't work every single time.

Does anyone know if there's something I can change in settings to make this behave more like my canons ? I wouldn't even know where to begin to look in the manual.

many thanks in advance.
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:00
My k-5 & all my Pentax Dslr changing the shutter speed using the dial has worked instantly, I cannot think of a setting that would do that nor why..
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:08
Do you have lens corrections on? If you do the camera takes a while to process the jpegs
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:13
Not as I'm aware of and I only ever shoot RAW.
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:15
Do you have instant preview turned on? (i.e. when a picture is taken, does the camera display it on the rear screen for a second or two). If so, then when you take the first picture, the camera will display it on the rear screen and the camera, for that period, will effectively be in playback mode, so turning the e-dial will actually zoom the picture on the rear screen in and out rather than changing the camera settings. Pressing the shutter button halfway will exit playback mode and then the e-dial should be effective on the settings again... OR you could just turn off the instant preview function in the camera settings (it's there in the menu somewhere - page 4 or 5 of the first tab under menu I think).

or I could have misunderstood completely... (apologies if so)
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:32
matwhittington wrote:
Do you have instant preview turned on? (i.e. when a picture is taken, does the camera display it on the rear screen for a second or two). If so, then when you take the first picture, the camera will display it on the rear screen and the camera, for that period, will effectively be in playback mode, so turning the e-dial will actually zoom the picture on the rear screen in and out rather than changing the camera settings. Pressing the shutter button halfway will exit playback mode and then the e-dial should be effective on the settings again... OR you could just turn off the instant preview function in the camera settings (it's there in the menu somewhere - page 4 or 5 of the first tab under menu I think).

or I could have misunderstood completely... (apologies if so)

No I suspect you have it on the nail sir. yes I have that on - with the canons turning the dial must just kick it out of instant preview. Maybe there's no way to do the same on the Pentaxes ...hmmm sounds like I will have to live with it if I want to keep preview on (which I do)

thnaks

if anyone knows differently of course and I can make them behave the same way as my Canons ......
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 22:55
Menu 5 > Instant Review > Enlarge Instant review = Off (Unticked)

With this setting, turning the eDial cancels Instant review on the first click. The second click will change the Aperture/Shutter speed/ ISO according to how you have them set up and should give you instant'ish setting changes like your Canon.

Hope that helps.
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 23:04
wooo hooo thanks very much for that you're a star
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 23:08
Yeap that's how mine is setup if you wanna view the image and enlarge it just click the play button on the left and the dial zooms in again
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Link Posted 22/04/2012 - 23:16
cheers peeps
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Link Posted 23/04/2012 - 00:19
If you want a consistent difference betwen frames in a single direction, you can set the camera to do it automatically by setting the auto-bracketing up and then applying exposure compensation. As you apply the compensation, the 'bracket points' move on the number-line so you can shift the neutral point.

For example to set a 5 shot bracket at -0.5, 0, +0.5, +1, +1.5:
1) Set auto bracketing up at 5 shots (front dial), 0.5EV steps (rear dial).
2) Set the exposure compensation to +0.5EV.
3) Camera does the rest.
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Last Edited by johnha on 23/04/2012 - 00:20
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Link Posted 23/04/2012 - 06:49
I tend to be random with it but tht is definitely food for thought - thank you
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Link Posted 23/04/2012 - 17:32
Billythebull wrote:
If you want a consistent difference betwen frames in a single direction, you can set the camera to do it automatically by setting the auto-bracketing up and then applying exposure compensation.

What is the purpose of repeating somebody else's post without adding your own comment?
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Link Posted 23/04/2012 - 19:58
Mannesty wrote:
Menu 5 > Instant Review > Enlarge Instant review = Off (Unticked)

Thanks for that information. I'd assumed that this was a K5 trait too and just used to half press the shutter button to get rid of the enlarge function.

Guess who hasn't fully read the manual
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Link Posted 23/04/2012 - 20:52
paultodd wrote:
Thanks for that information. I'd assumed that this was a K5 trait too and just used to half press the shutter button to get rid of the enlarge function.

Doesn't just pressing OK work?
Less chance of taking another shot by accident then.
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